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Burning Godzilla
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:05 am Posts: 3688
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Marvel issued their solicitations for January today and one of the items just so happens to be Essential Godzilla. The first 24 issues in black & white for $17.
Cool.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:55 am |
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StompTokyo2
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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2001 8:38 pm Posts: 1323 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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:O
Marvel has been issuing some of their stranger stuff as Essential volumes recently, but I didn't expect to ever see this. Marvel's original agreement with Toho must have been iron clad.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:25 am |
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Burning Godzilla
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The word is Marvel's going to be issuing this only for a limited time due to the rights issue. One printing.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:59 am |
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StompTokyo2
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Something strange is definitely up with it. According to the solicitation it's about 2/3 the size of an average Essential volume, but costs $3.00 more.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:09 pm |
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El Santo
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Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2002 10:21 pm Posts: 5514 Location: In the orbit of Baltimore, Maryland
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Meanwhile, I have to question the very premise that there might be even a single panel of Marvel's majestically crummy Godzilla comic that could in any way merit the adjective "essential."
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:52 pm |
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Burning Godzilla
Joined: Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:05 am Posts: 3688
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Yeah, I just caught that. Obviously Toho is putting some nice rules there.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:11 pm |
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StompTokyo2
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Pshaw! There are many classic moments in that series! Red Ronin! Godzilla being loaded aboard a Helicarrier! Godzilla fights a rat! The evil of Dr. Demonicus! Yetigar! Godzilla fights a paramecium! That Kenny kid! Erm... Dum Dum Dugan! Spider-Man not fighting Godzilla! That token black S.H.I.E.L.D. agent! And many other classic moments I'm not remembering!
Now if they wanted to do "perfect" instead of "essential" they would include all those letter-to-the-editor responses where they had to explain to the writer that they would not be including other Toho monsters for rights reasons.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 1:19 pm |
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Son of Spam
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Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2001 10:24 am Posts: 3275 Location: I live in a house.
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You'd think, though, that Marvel could've at least included some other monsters. I mean, sure, there was Red Ronin, and then some story with Godzilla fighting...what was it, three?...lame-ass alien monsters, and then another story where he fought Dr. Demonicus's lame-ass monsters. But that was pretty much it. Most of the series was just concerned with stupid crap like that Valley of Gwangi rip-off issue, or having Godzilla get shrunk down and fight a rat. Not even a giant rat, or a slightly-larger-than-average rat with powers induced by radiation - just an ordinary New York rat. This is like all those American kung-fu movies where the hero is a young dude who does kung-fu, and the villain is a fat, middle-aged man in a suit: a complete waste of something that could've been fairly cool.
For Christ's sake, Marvel even has their own stable of monsters that they could've sent Godzilla up against. Sure, they couldn't use King Ghidorah, but nothing was stopping them from using Fin Fang Foom (and the fact that they completely ignored the potential for this fight is still, as far as I'm concerned, one of the greatest missed opportunities in the history of comics). Or, for that matter, any of those other monsters that showed up in those old pre-FF-#1-era monster comics that Lee and Kirby worked on. It's not like making this series fun would've been a difficult thing to do - it just would've required a tiny bity of imagination, and that's obviously more than the writers were willing to expend.
Dark Horse's series, though, could conceivably be called "Essential," as long as the rest of the sentence is "...to Godzilla fans." That was pretty cool stuff - although Dark Horse also had a missed opportunity which was, I believe, even more egregious than Marvel's. You see, for a while, Dark Horse owned the rights to do comics centering on both Godzilla and Gamera. Considering that, at the time, Dark Horse Comics had a serious hard-on for doing crossovers with licensed characters to whom they owned the rights (Alien vs. Predator, RoboCop vs. Terminator, etc.), they could've finally given the world a showdown between Godzilla and Gamera. But, after the pretty awful Gamera: Guardian of the Universe mini-series, they never did anything with the character again. Sigh.
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 5:24 pm |
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StompTokyo2
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But Godzilla fought the Champions! The Champions were easily the 11th or 12th most prominent super-team in the Marvel Universe, if you don't include X-Men-related teams. And not just the Champions, but the classic roster of the Champions! That would be Hercules, Ghost Rider, Angel... Another X-Man, probably Iceman, I think... Erm... There was probably a token woman in there too, maybe Black Widow...
C'mon, the Champions!
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 7:26 pm |
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El Santo
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Joined: Wed Jun 26, 2002 10:21 pm Posts: 5514 Location: In the orbit of Baltimore, Maryland
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Like I said...
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| Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:49 pm |
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StompTokyo2
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And Devil Dinosaur! Don't forget that Godzilla met Devil Dinosaur.
That's the best thing about Essential Godzilla -- It opens the way for anything to be an Essential volume. Essential Devil Dinosaur? Why not, other than there only being nine or ten issues? I suppose they could throw in those issues of 2001 and Machine Man and call it Essential Crappy Failed Jack Kirby Series. Volume 1, of course.
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| Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:55 am |
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Son of Spam
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Wait, I thought 2001: A Space Odyssey WAS Machine Man's book? I mean, not at first, sure - at first, he tried to do it as something close to a serious science fiction series, and then he said, "Ah, screw it, I like drawing superheroes better" and turned it into Machine Man's book. Or was that a case kind of like Spider-Man's appearance in Amazing Fantasy, where he showed up in the last issue and then got spun off into his own series?
Anyway, I think the point where the door was opened for anything to be an Essential volume already came, with Essential Howard the Duck.
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StompTokyo2
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Machine Man did appear in the last few issues of 2001, though he was called "Mister Machine." He then got his own book, and I think Kirby did the first ten or so issues, at the same time he was doing Devil Dinosaur. I remember getting them both.
So that's almost thirty late-era Marvel/Kirby issues they put in an Essential. If they need more they could include Kirby's issues of The Eternals.
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